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that sells manufactuchinery to l industry. the president very much so on romney's mind as well. >> the supreme court will be dealing with whether or not obama care is constitutional. if it's not deemed constitutional than the first three and a half years of this president's term will have been wasted on something that's not helped the american people. if it is deemed to stand, then we're going to have a president, and i'm the one that will get rid of obama care. we're going to stop it on day one. top of the hour. welcome back. we're getting word of major bust involving stolen credit cards and bank information and we're told it involved your information online. we're gathering the facts. more on this story in a moment. some are calling this a catastrophic form. tropical storm debby creeping
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across the state dumping rain. take a look for yourself. you can see they are absolutely spilling over their banks. 2,000 people giving mandatory evacuations. a portion of interstate 10 is closed because of standing water and debby isn't done yet. the storm could bring in another foot of rain. we have the storm surge is an issue. explain to me, i know i see some water on days like this. where does the water come from and is it going away? >> reporter: sure. we always hear head into the right of where the storm makes landfall. even in the case of a tropical storm like this, that still the scenario of where you're going to see that on shore flow, that surge of water. when you have a storm like this that's been moving so slowly toward the coast, you've had two days of nonstop wave action just coming and coming pushing this
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water on shore. it's not rain water flooding. it's tidal flooding. this is base shore boulevard here in the tampa bay area. earlier today we were over in st. petersburg just across tampa. we talked to some people over there who were experiencing the same thing. >> you see the water marks. the water was up this high on the doors. everything was walkway in the center. everything was stacked up on the sides. it started to collapse down on itself. >> reporter: so now, clearly, you've had rain water flooding. that's been significant. you've had tidal flooding from here in tampa bay all the way north around the big bend of florida, cedar key, crystal river south of tallahassee, all
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the way around almost as far as panama city. that's been serious as well as tornadoes and as well as the water spout. we've seen just about everything from this very, very slow moving system. brooke. >> what about the mayor? how concerned is he? what is the plan? >> reporter: we talked to the mayor about the fact they've fwot to cgot the convention. about 400 yard s the convention center and the forum. he said when we bid for the republican national convention, we factored in, did an analysis, what are the odds of a hurricane hitting tampa bay that week in august. less than 1%. clearly, he said we are prepared. we have contingency plans in place. if it was something like this again, they would be able to deal with it. wouldn't cause a problem.
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anything worse than that, he said it's his decision what would happen as far as evacuating the city. they factored all that in before they ever bid on it. less than 1% chance. >> hopefully that doesn't happen. >> reporter: i wouldn't want to be the mayor if that 1% happened. >> a lot of republicans just stuck in hotels. thank you so much. chad, you've been watching the water level. talk to me about rain levels so far. >> 26 inches. there's a rain gauge there and a river. the river has to go someplace. it has to get into the gulf of mexico. i just saw some video coming in. it's cut. it's raw. our reporter was going down the street below the boat is 15 feet
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of water before it got to the road. he wasn't in a river. he was above a road. the road was 15 feet below him. >> oh, my goodness. >> we'll get it as fast as question. some areas have five inches of rain per hour in the day yesterday. it's finally moving away a bit. there's the center of circulation right there. cedar key right there. it still has chance to spread more rainfall. we think it will before it finally shoots out into the ocean by tomorrow afternoon. there's the storm itself. still seeing it here and on the radar. the rainfall continues all the way down to tampa although there was some sunshine. there's an awful lot of more rain on i-10. it's closed not only because of flooding but now there's a sink hole on the interstate. brooke. >> that's the issue. the area is saturated because of the water.
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thank you so much. a lot more news coming at you this hour. watch. it happens to all of us. you get the hospital bill in the mail, and you think why does it cost so much? why? >> most people don't bother looking at the bills. we're going to go straight inside the operating room to figure out why. >> the news is now. the race to find survivors. a landslide buries entire villages and hundreds are missing. plus, be careful. the next time you want to spill a secret. the government will use lie detector tests to uncover leaks. you're about to find out exactly how they work. the rules of engagement are changing after syria shoots down a turkish jet. turkey says anymore action is a threat.
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i tell mike what i can spend. i do my best to make that work. we're driving safely. and sue saved money on brakes. now that's personal pricing. 12$1200 dlr for a surgical stapler. $200 for an iv bag. these are real prices. we go inside the operating room for this eye popping look for how much hospitals charge for basic supplies and why. >> reporter: one of the questions is what about these hospital bills? how do they break down? how do you make sense of it? i want to give you an example by taking you inside this operating room. this is the hospital where i work, where i'm a neuro surgeon.
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having an operation in a room like this costs about $3,000 an hour. if you look at a hospital bill, you might see an iv bag charge, about $280 just for the bag. that might strike people as high. a stapler. this is about $1200. in is a chest tube. if someone has compression, that costs about $1100. you'll find examples like that all over a room. suture. it's about $200. even devices like, this is a needle that's used for biopsies. this is going to cost about $800. it's important to keep the mind, if you ask the manufacturers of a device like this, why so much money, they'll say it took years to develop something like this. the research and development
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costs and the effectiveness of a needle. when you look at a hospital bill, it's knot not just the cost of supplies. there's the cost of covering people that don't have insurance or can't pay. keep this mind that what is charged and what is paid are two different numbers. >> the typical hospital collects about 4% of every dollar that they or about four cents of every dollar that they bill. it's not coming out in massive profits. it's coming out as a result of underpayment from the government. >> reporter: the cost break down like i just gave you, a lot of people simply never see. what we have found is a lot of people don't care as well. if you're insured, some people may not open the hospital bill. there are about 50 million people uninsured out there and they care very much about hospital bills.
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you can call the hospital and get a detailed break down. while you're on the phone with the hospital, if the cost seems too high or just hard to understand, you might be able to negotiate some of these prices down. >> negotiate prices with the hospital. >> it's hard to believe, but people sometimes do that especially when, if you're uninsured and you're paying this bill out of your own pocket. >> every dollar matters. it's 3,000 bucks an hour to be in that room. i cannot believe that number. >> it is remarkable. as part of this doing this piece, i got a look at some of these numbers. we don't know that as a physician. these are the hospital charges. when we talk about health care, there's about $56 billion a year that's uncompensated care. uninsured who go for visits. those costs are passed onto us.
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the point of this piece is the show you exactly how. the reason they cost so much money is everyone is absorbing the costs. >> as we look ahead to thursday and the supreme court handing down this ruling on obama care, if the individual mandate, if that requirement for americans to buy health insurance, if that's struck down, do those prices then go up? >> i think so. here is why. let's say you have part of the health care bill that says if you're sick, we're not going to discriminate based on your sickness. you would immediately say fine. i'm only going to buy health insurance when i get sick. what's that going to do? it's going to raise the cost of health insurance for everybody. they tried this in kentucky. they saw that premiums went up about 40%. people say i'm insured. this issue isn't about me. if the mandate is struck down, the premiums will go up for
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everybody. >> that's so important for people who aren't insured to know they have that power to. >> $800 for a needing. >> thank you so much. packing up your home. leaving quickly. hundreds of people are evacuated because of this. these huge wildfires raging. we're going to talk to one woman considering getting out of dodge. a note for you, keep watching cnn from your mobile foam. fp at work you can watch it live from the desk top. ♪ uh-huh... uh-huh... uh-huh... ♪ ♪ it kinda makes me miss the days when we ♪ ♪ used to rock the microphone ♪ back when our credit score couldn't get us a micro-loan ♪ ♪ so light it up! ♪ even better than we did before ♪ ♪ yeah prep yourself america we're back for more ♪ ♪ our look is slacker chic and our sound is hardcore ♪ ♪ and we're here to drop a rhyme about free-credit-score ♪ ♪ i'm singing free-credit-score-dot-com ♪ ♪ dot-com narrator: offer applies with enrollment in freecreditscore.com.
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young professals are told to invest part of their salaries. here is poppy harlow. >> we're talking investing. interesting question we got on the street. take a listen. >> is it better to invest your money or not to invest your money? >> important for someone young who may not have that big of a salary. what's your take? >> everyone should be looking to invest. the question is what are you investing in and can it be sustainable. you have stocks, bond, real estate, you have a business you might want to put it into. have your budget together and figure out if you can put money in in regular intervals. >> what is this money? that's the question. money has to do something for you, and it shouldn't be invested, which is risk, if this is money that you need pr the short term. if this is your emergency fund or down payment or house, maybe
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you don't want to expose it to risk. >> i think risk is the key question. they are looking at what the market has done over the past four years and wondering what's best for me. i think that's definitely the question. good point as to what is the money for. where does it come from. do you need it to be liquid. >> for the long term, invest it. >> if you have $10,000 in credit card debt, you shouldn't be putting money in the market. it all depends on your financial situation. >> thank you. if you have a question you want answered just upload a 30-second video.
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as oush crews on the ground
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are saying, it's brutal in colorado. take a look at the wildfires. not only that, triple digit temperatures. high wind and humidity and no rest in sight. it could be three weeks before crews contain their focus. right now it's 5% contained. the good news, if we can call it that, the number of people evacuated is down. 6,000 people from 11,000. so far no injuries, no homes lost. i want to bring in someone who lives in the area and has chosen to think about getting out of there. she and i graduated high school together and i know you and i have been e-mails with rashad who lives in the same neck of the woods.
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he said clarissa is pregnant. i'm sure that adds another layer to your nerves. how are you doing? >> it has been nerve wracking. i saw the fire saturday afternoon. i can see it from the front porch of my house. when you see something like that coming your way and the temperatures are up, it does make you worry. it makes you think about what steps do i need to be taking to prepare myself in case i needed to dpo somewhere else. >> here you are, baby number one on the way. i know we have some daytime pictures that you took and nighttime. you're an atlanta gal, is this the first time you dealt with this or have you been out there a while? >> i've been here since 2005. this is the first time we've had it. we're always in a fire zone just
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because of the temperatures. this is the closest to the city it's been by far since i've lived here. >> is this taken from your back patio? >> there are two photos that were taken from my front porch. looking out the front, we face in the direction of garden of the gods, which is a big tourist attraction here. the fire at that point where it started was right behind that area. we're probably within a mile or so of where the fire is right now. >> a mile or so. what do they tell you? at what point do you decide, you and your husband to leave for the time being? >> what we're trying to think about right now, we're not in a mandatory evacuation in our area. we are packed up and ready to go if with we need to move quickly. we pulled together our important documents and things to take care of our dog when we're gone, clothing and prescriptions.
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if we're told we need to go, we can go immediately. >> okay. chad, are you listening to this conversation? >> i am. >> what do you make of all this? >> the problem with thisfire is we have now only 5% containment. any other fire we talk about for a long time that's getting a little better and moving away from people. the problem with this fire storm is we have so many people in the way. so many homes in the way. we haven't lost a home yet, but there are 2,000 that are in danger of being only a couple hundred yards from the fire line itself. this is a scary fire because it started to close to the city. high park started 15 miles in. >> i love gardens of god. there's a lot going on there. when we get some containment,
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that would be great. we didn't have any yesterday. this made a big run toward the northwest. they use some fire fighting efforts from the air force. they tried to get this fire out. they're working hard, but it's not working. >> chad myers, i know you're watching this. clarissa, thank you for calling in. just into us here, word of a major bust involving a breach of trust. we have the facts. big ben getting some new royal keks. it's not getting bumped aside by the queen. we'll explain after this. machine [ creaking ]
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we're hearing from the syrian president. also, stolen credit cards, bank information and a federal bust. plus, the queen is about to have a towering effect. time to play reporter roulette. ivan, i'm going to go straight to you. we've just gotten word, president assad speaking to his new cabinet saying we're in ste l waea what is hreferencing? >> reporter: clearly the conflict inside of his country with large chunks of his own territory that's fallen out of government control and into the hands of the rebels.
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swearing in a new government but keeping a lot of same faces in the positions of minister of interior and defense and the foreign minister. >> we are in state of war in every aspect and all our politics has been be concentrated on winning this war. >> reporter: he also spent a lot of time talking about the economy and the need to keep subsidies in the country. almost ignoring the fact the entire cities have been burning for months and he has a crisis with his neighbor to the northwest. this after defenses shot down a turkish military plane on friday with the turkish prime minister responding saying if they approach the turkish borders
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that turkey can see this as a threat and will respond in kind. the turks not illustrating what that response could be. the turks have taken this issue to the nato military appliance and gotten a message of solidari solidarity. it looks like a tense situation is getting even more strained. >> thank you. next, this big crackdown on stolen creditcards. what's the story? >> reporter: we're trying to find out how many people were scammed before the crooks were ought. we are hering that their undercover sting operation wound up protecting over 400 cyber crime victims and prevented losses and theft. 24 people have been arrested worldwide. this is a sophisticated hacking
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group that authorities believe stole credit card and bank information online and exchanged it with each other online meaning buying and selling these stolen i.d.s. for the past two years the fbi has been having an undercover operation around the world. they were able to set up a face online focum. dparts were able to that can trar conversations. the u.s. attorney office said the arrest caused significant disruption to the underground econo economy. it's also a reminder to keep track of your own credit cards and get that credit card regularly and make sure people aren't using your information. >> how can people know if it's their information was stolen or would they know by now?
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>> we are trying to find out how many people may have been effected, but if you're trying to protect your own stuff, youshds get those fre credit cards and keep track of whether or not you're seeing activity that shouldn't be there. >> pay close attention. thank you. next, even for the queen of england, a big honor awaits. queen elizabeth made a visit to ireland. the queen lost a cousin to the violence involving the dedicate long rift between protestants and catholics. we'll have her name written on a big ben. max faster has the details. when this idea first came it was very controversy because a lot of people were concerned that the name big ben would
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disappear. that's not the case. big ben is the bell which is in this tower known as the clock tower. it's the tower itself that's being renamed, the elizabeth tower. she's not the first to have a tower named after her. the two main towers are named after the two monarchs. a big tribute to both of them and the queen clearly very pleased. there will be a naming kmoe ini to formize all of this. in reality whether we call it the elizabeth tow tetower, prob. >> big ben. thank you from loner.
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if you book travel online you may not be getting the cheapest deal because of the commuter you're using. it's my favorite video of the year. you're about to see what happens. you're going to see what happens when the dpovt and refresh her recollection. next. machine plap.
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just be safe. i'm sorry. the watermelon exploding is just fun. let me have some fun. get the best bang for your buck when you travel, it can depend on which travel website you use but also on the computer you use. orbitz has started showing mac users different and sometimes more expensive recommendations than people that use pc's. the mac users spend more money on hotels and the company is trying to give them what they want. >> i think this is absolutely trying to recommend for customers what they are more likely to book. all the hotels are available to the users. you sort by price or alphabetical. there's no way we're treating mac or pc users any different. we love them both. let me bring in our favorite tech reporter. what are they up to?
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>> targeted marketing nothing new here. online retailers are getting smarter and craftier in ways they target consumers. we're having a look at orbitz. they took all this data compiled on their users and found some key findings when it comes to mac users. i want to show you a couple of those findings. mac users shell out 30% more on a hotel room. also they are 40% more likely to d go to a four or five star hotel. mac users make a a little more in terms of average household income. we're seeing different options and different recommendations for mac users. you think this is very smart or it might strike a sensitive cord. >> there's a key difference because orbitz is saying this doesn't affect search results. it's just the recommendation results, right?
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>> we did hear from the ceo and he did say this doesn't affect the price of the hotel or the flight you're booking. it just aefkts the recommendations. i think that's a fair point. i will tell you orbitz about two or three days a week, i'm on my mac book pro and i don't know if this is cool. people are saying i'm not okay with this. it's like we have this analysis here. is it smart on one hand? absolutely. company is it going to become a problem in terms of sensitivity? perhaps. s s s >> you'll have to adjust the price index. what about consumer privacy. are companies going to target us depending on what browser we're
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using, what mobile device we're on? >> it's a great question. we're going to see it more and more. i think we should expect to see it more and more but on the consumer side, the advantage we have is transparency. we're saying we're not okay with it and bringing it to the table. if you're ready to answer the questions behind it, you better be prepared to. >> good to see you. >> thank you. he heard the gunshot. he was told his mother committed suicide but actor dylon mcdermott pressed the police who say his mother was killed by a mobster. we're on the case. and some difficult ones. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. so why should our anniversary matter to you? because for 200 years, we've been helping ideas move from ambition to achievement. and the next great idea could be yours.
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call now to request your free decision guide. you know dylon mcdermott. did you know when he was five years old, he lived through one himself. being the only witness to the fatal shooting to his own mother in their 1967 connecticut home. now police say her death was not a suicide but a murder. the store was first reported in the the republican american. police re-opened the case after her son made this request. investigators say they have enough evidence to file charges against a man. the republican american reports she was a known mobster. joey jackson on the case with us today.
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he's dead, so what's the next step? >> i think it's more from closure. from a criminal perspective there could be a trial. you're entitled to due process which is notice and an opportunity be heard. you can't be afforded notice, nor could you be heard or con front your accusers. if you look at the civil side, there could be a wrongful death proceeding against the estate. i think this is because he had deeply personal reasons as to why he wanted this re-opened. he really wanted answers. i think he's getting them. it's not to suggest he's guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. only a trial could determine that but there seems to be questions it was not a suicide based upon the caliber of the gun found next to her body. it appears the gun was pressed against the back of her head. >> we should point out he's not
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commenting on his mother's case but hopefully some answers for him. moving on. this other case, country music singer kenny chesney responding to a security guard kicking out one of his fans. have you heard about this. take a look at this. you see chesney on the left and the fan who got booted on the right. he told our affiliate that security said he was too disruptive in trying to impersonate the star. >> i thought he was going to lead me to my seat but he grazed me by the arm and started pulling me up the walk way to go to the top. i said because i wear the hat. i've seen a million of the hats. i think the way they handled it made it seem worse. it's like they were really escorting kenny through the crowd. >> joey, i get it. obviously the guy looks a lot like him, but why. why kick him out? what was the issue with security? >> it's amazing. what security was claiming is
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that it was causing a disruption because people were based upon their similarity, it's like a split l image that he looked too much like him. there was too much attention drawn and it would be problematic because the first thing you want to do at the concerts is keep people safe. they escorted him out for his safety and the safety of everyone else. the question now to whether he can sue, lawsuits are about damages and sony is saying they will give him his money back. they are sending him lots of cds. he's getting a lot of fame upon this, so i think he will be fine. >> we did reach out to kenny chesney's folks. he said no one knew about this. they say they are reaching out to make the situation right. have you heard of something like this? you're paying your own money. just happens you look like the guy on stage. it's kind of wild. >> it is kind of wild.
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it's sort of become part of our mission on this show to explain to you how we can all do better by victims who go years without a voice. that being abused chirnz. many are wondering how long and how often a 10-year-old girl was forced into a closet in this apartment. this is kansas city, missouri. police found her surrounded by her own feces and urine. she couldn't escape it. >> the door was barricade frd the outside but there was a shoe string or a string bound around the two knobs of the doors. she had defecated multiple times in that room. the stench of urine was, i'm told, hard to bear. >> it gets worse. that 10-year-old girl weighed 32 pounds. 32 pounds. the kansas star reports clothes meant for a 4-year-old child
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fell off this child. she has two younger sisters who were fed and were bathed. it's not clear why the mother treated her oldest differently hiding her away so that neighbors didn't even know she existed. >> three years, and i have never seen a child. >> if i knew the baby was up there, i would have got the baby myself. >> she's now charged with child endangerment, child abuse and assault. the 10-year-old is now in the hospital. >> she was very dirty and unkept. but amazingly as children tend to surprise all of us, she had very good spirits. >> well, we know someone did do better because police say it was an anonymous tip that led them to this girl showing what can happen when a person makes the choice to do better.
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who is spilling our country's highly classified secrets to the media? once again today republicans called on the white house to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the recent series of intelligence leaks. senator john mccain says there is a definite political purpose to these leaks. >> to make the president of the united states look like a brave strong leader on national security. this, what has taken place, i have never seen anything like in the many years i have been here. >> as a result of these leaks we've been talking about,
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federal intelligence employees now have to answer a new polygraph question. and they better answer no if they want a job or keep the one they have. the question is, have you ever given information to a reporter? national intelligence director james clapper says he's now adding that to polygraph tests given to employees of the cia, fbi, nsa and other agencies. polygraph tests here. alex manning is a former agent for the gbi, georgia bureau of investigation. welcome. polygraph test, thank goodness, i've never had to take one. how do they work? you see them in the movies. >> right. they work based on response of your pulse, respirations, your hands get a little bit sweaty. definitely your blood pressure goes up depending on whether or not you're lying or telling the truth. >> i've always wondered does the person administering the question, do they start asking easier questions and slowly gets to the point where they're asking the tough ones? are there patterns they're looking for? >> you do pre-interview
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questions. you go over everything you want to know. for instance, i may ask you have you ever stolen office supplies? we know you've taken pens. we saw some in your purse out there. we would ask you that and get you to get everything off your chest. get you in there and ask you to give us a question you're going to lie about. maybe i would ask you your name, is your name susan? and you say no. and then you get one, have you ever spoken to a reporter? they're going to have to get more specific about that. they may know somebody, have you ever spoken to a reporter about what you heard in a white house meeting? that may trigger response to show that they've lied. >> how does this work? they can't take these polygraph tests to the office. it doesn't work that way, does it? printeiewingor hirg, if in you don't pass the polygraph, you don't get hired. obviously they have to get clearance for security. and if they're going to get, you
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know, get security clearance for the next couple of years and don't pass, they lose security clearance, they lose their job and could get terminated. >> why is it you can't use polygraph results in a courtroom. >> not admissible. they call it junk science. >> junk science? >> it's not like dna. >> so if it's junk science, how can someone lose a job over polygraph test? >> different law in different states. statof geia, they can fir you if you pass a polygraph. they could fire you because they want to fire you. different states have different rules, different laws. >> if people, those folks, i don't know, can lie really well or somehow train their focus so that they could possibly beat the test, is that possible? >> sure. if you remember, the very first victim -- i remember her first name is vicki of the btk serial killer. they looked at her husband. her husband was innocent, flunked the polygraph two times. >> how does that happen? >> upset. and if you're going to be upset,
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some people say if you're upset, there should be a consistent upset. your blood pressure should remain the same. and later when they got dna, they found btk's dna under her fingernails. they've had agents pass and not pass polygraphs. >> do you think you've pass one? >> i've passed it. >> fascinating. lie detector tests. i hope i never have to take one. >> we have one set up. >> that's after the show. not to be happening on live television. alex, so nice to meet you. >> thank you, you too. american home prices climbed higher in april for the first time in seven months. the average price rose 1% -- excuse me, 1.3% in 20 major markets according to the case shiler home price index. but prices are still near record lows. they are now back to where they were in early 2003. let's go to alison kosik at the new york stock exchange with the news. why is this? >> first of all, home prices are up. that's the good thing. you saw prices go up 1.3% from march to april.
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if you look over a year ago compare today a year ago home prices are lower. but, still, when you see that one-month move higher, that's a good sign. also, there have been other good signs in the housing market that things are slowly but surely getting better. home sales are slowly but surely getting better. you really want to see these home prices kind of find their bottom and start moving up. the hope is, brooke, at this point that this rise from march to april is a positive one that's going to stick, that's going to become a trend. then you can say with certainty that home prices have hit a bottom. and that's the good news that's actually kept stocks higher today. if you look at the board, the dow is up 47 points. we have about two minutes before the closing bell. that news has certainly helped stocks hold onto their gains today. we are watching financial shares bounce back after they took a big hit on monday. we saw the dow fall in the triple digits. energy stocks, they're rising as well. that housing report was the good report of the day. the bad report was a weak reading on consumer confidence. we found out the consumer confidence fell short of
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expectations in june. it actually slipped to the lowest point since january. and the big worry there is if you don't have consumer confidence, people aren't going to be at the ready to spend their money. >> right. we talk about confidence all the time. alison kosik, thank you. and let me let you know what's happening right now in canada. rescue crews are trying to save anyone who could still be trapped under this rubble. this is a collapsed mall in ontario, canada. it's possible, we're hearing, one person may still be alive. you see the rescuers here. they are bringing in a crane. they're bringing in heavy equipment just to try to dismantle outside portions of the mall to possibly try to find this person. the scene is so dangerous at different points in time crews were told the staff working but the community outcry couldn't be ignored. >> we come from a mining town where mine rescue never gave up on people. they stuck it out. they were there. you never